[rambidenza]

It's highly unlikely that most of the other girls who are formerly part of the WS studio would be vastly supported for any contests on LJ nowadays, it's definitely a no. Before this thread in the forum existed, some LJ models of the studio participated in top 100 models Awards that included the 'vote for models' feature used by members in 2020 or earlier, that was before categories (e.g. newbies, video calls, etc.) in the Awards later replaced that feature. More details about the feature before categories can be found at https://fapdistrict.com/webcams/livejasm...wards.html

The availability of LJ models of the studio have been gradually decreased from 2022 onwards I think, the final LJ model introduced by WS was in Dec. 2023. So there are just four girls remaining who continue to use their existing display names individually on LJ: ElinaMalina, EvaPirs, GoldyRivera and LucretiaPhos

Of those 4, Goldy is in the top 100 because of one tip.  She barely comes online.  Eva and Lucretia are on much less now.  To her credit, Elina is in the top 200 because for some reason, the same members keep coming to her over and over again. Probably because she cries about how sad her life is. If she stopped logging in, WS would finally die.

Goldy is now in 124, she's cammed in some location outside of now disbanded WS interiors lately, WS is mostly done for good.

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when you accidently enable lush toy in free chat

[grindradiox]

likely that widestream have given their st petersburg studios a new color of paint and new furniture to fool us.

over the past week new girls have been appearing as soulmates and if you mention WS you get kicked.

thoughts?

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Number 4 BeatriceBinoche is a scammer she promised to show boobs for tip and after i tip her she asked for more.

You should report that to customer service and ask for a refund. If she gets enough reports eventually they will ban her account.

[crossedeyes]

leona looking hot tonight

[crossedeyes]

heard on telegram that one of the members of this thread tried to take his own life again. if you read this sasha reach out to him and give the guy some hope afterall you caused all this by taking all his money and leaving him at his lowest point in life.

[HotFlirtFan]

I have absolutely no compassion for those naive guys thinking they can have real feelings with an online prostitute (let's not be scared of this word, this is what they are).
They are here for only one purpose : making money.
And to make a maximum of money, they need to drag people (rich people if possible ) into a sentimental trap, making them feel loved, while in reality they don't give a fuck about those guys and their problems.
I think every customer should know that at first... As a customer, you come into such site to have sexual fun online, and it shouldn't be about anything else.
In my opinion, the "Soulmate" category shit is the most obvious form of scam possible. Girls there pretend to care about you, pretend to want to talk with you (in private only, ofc lol), and cherry on the cake : they can also remove clothes and get naughty, but for at least 10 times the price other girls on normal categories would require.

I know it will probably be hard to hear for some of you, but that's just the truth. If you came to the point where you feel betrayed and heartbroken by a girl you saw only through a camera on an adult website, then you can only blame yourself for being this stupid and naive...

[grindradiox]

I have absolutely no compassion for those naive guys thinking they can have real feelings with an online prostitute (let's not be scared of this word, this is what they are).
They are here for only one purpose : making money.
And to make a maximum of money, they need to drag people (rich people if possible ) into a sentimental trap, making them feel loved, while in reality they don't give a fuck about those guys and their problems.
I think every customer should know that at first... As a customer, you come into such site to have sexual fun online, and it shouldn't be about anything else.
In my opinion, the "Soulmate" category shit is the most obvious form of scam possible. Girls there pretend to care about you, pretend to want to talk with you (in private only, ofc lol), and cherry on the cake : they can also remove clothes and get naughty, but for at least 10 times the price other girls on normal categories would require.

I know it will probably be hard to hear for some of you, but that's just the truth. If you came to the point where you feel betrayed and heartbroken by a girl you saw only through a camera on an adult website, then you can only blame yourself for being this stupid and naive...

I agree that no guy should be using these websites to look for a girlfriend or wife. But I still enjoy the Soul Mate section. Some Soul Mates do get nude for extra or if you have had multiple pvt shows with them. Some Soul Mates are even easy as Girl models. EmilyFines was a good example of this.

I think there are three types of guys who go after Soul Mate models:

1. Guys who are just looking for a conversation / online friendship and romance / potential real life meeting.

2. Very rich guys with who are trying to get nudity with them because they get turned on by the fact that they got something very rare that others can't get.

3. Average guys who are satisfied with non nude teasing and roleplay and / or hope they can eventually get some nudity one day.

I fall into the third category, but i'm hoping to make my way up to the second category. lol.

I don't think the models should be blamed for anything. All of the guys in category one have problems to begin with if they feel the need to pay by the minute for an online romance. If anything, some of these guys probably would have tried to off themself a lot sooner if they didn't "connect" with those models.

Spending money on cam sites is already dumb, but trying to find a girlfriend on a cam site is another level of stupid.

[grindradiox]

I have absolutely no compassion for those naive guys thinking they can have real feelings with an online prostitute (let's not be scared of this word, this is what they are).
They are here for only one purpose : making money.
And to make a maximum of money, they need to drag people (rich people if possible ) into a sentimental trap, making them feel loved, while in reality they don't give a fuck about those guys and their problems.
I think every customer should know that at first... As a customer, you come into such site to have sexual fun online, and it shouldn't be about anything else.
In my opinion, the "Soulmate" category shit is the most obvious form of scam possible. Girls there pretend to care about you, pretend to want to talk with you (in private only, ofc lol), and cherry on the cake : they can also remove clothes and get naughty, but for at least 10 times the price other girls on normal categories would require.

I know it will probably be hard to hear for some of you, but that's just the truth. If you came to the point where you feel betrayed and heartbroken by a girl you saw only through a camera on an adult website, then you can only blame yourself for being this stupid and naive...

I agree that no guy should be using these websites to look for a girlfriend or wife. But I still enjoy the Soul Mate section. Some Soul Mates do get nude for extra or if you have had multiple pvt shows with them. Some Soul Mates are even easy as Girl models. EmilyFines was a good example of this.

I think there are three types of guys who go after Soul Mate models:

1. Guys who are just looking for a conversation / online friendship and romance / potential real life meeting.

2. Very rich guys with who are trying to get nudity with them because they get turned on by the fact that they got something very rare that others can't get.

3. Average guys who are satisfied with non nude teasing and roleplay and / or hope they can eventually get some nudity one day.

I fall into the third category, but i'm hoping to make my way up to the second category. lol.

I don't think the models should be blamed for anything. All of the guys in category one have problems to begin with if they feel the need to pay by the minute for an online romance. If anything, some of these guys would have probably would have tried to off themself a lot sooner if they didn't "connect" with those models.

Spending money on cam sites is already dumb, but trying to find a girlfriend on a cam site is another level of stupid.

Guys who can afford to spend real money here tend to be older.  The models are girls in their early 20's from countries where they could either get no job or make $200 a month if they are lucky.  The popular ones see lots of guys a day telling them all sorts of shit about wanting to be together.  Unless a guy is a complete tool, anyone with real money can buy a girl here, whether she has a bf or not.  But imo it defeats the purpose of coming to the site.  There are a ton of girls here, and new hot ones every day.  Why spend a mortgage getting some poor girl to like you so you can start dealing with immigration, just to realize you scored a chick who will constantly see you as a wallet.

I don't know exactly what you mean by "anyone with real money can buy a girl here". If you are trying to imply that these models will want to be in a serious relationship just because these are rich nice guys, you are wrong. It's this type of mindset that makes the rich guys think they have some kind of chance at meeting in real life. Then after they spend a ton of money and realize they can't get the meeting they thought they were going to get, they starting crying and blaming the model for misleading them.

Meeting a cam model in person is extremely rare, and on the rare occasions that it does happen, it's because the model and customer had a genuine strong connection. The few models that are willing to go after guys just for the money are usually not that attractive any way and are just looking for a way to get to citizenship in America or Europe. Then after becoming citizens, they will eventually end up leaving the guy for someone they really have a connection with. I've literally seen this happen on a cam model's Instagram.

Another thing is, studio models are 100x more difficult to meet than the independent ones. Studio models have to deal with a set of rules and can't do certain things even if they wanted to. They would have to risk losing their job if they give out their personal contact info or talk to a customer off site.

I've always said MyFreeCams is the best place to meet models in person if that is your goal. Most of the models there are independent, you get free PMs, and there are no rules about them giving personal contact info.  If you have to spend $5 per minute to talk to your favorite model, you are doing it wrong. After your fourth long pvt show, it should be all PMs on the website or through personal contact info.

Like I was saying before there are 3 categories of of guys who go after Soul Mates. There are also some very rich guys willing to spend a "mortgage" on one model just to get regular naked shows from her and don't care about meeting in real life. This even happens with some Hot Flirts.

[camstrigoi]

Just my 2 cents on this. Most of the cam girls are good people just trying to make their way in the world just like the rest of us. To think that they have malicious intent (trying to get in your wallet, teasing, leading you on, etc.) when they interact with you is kind of naive.

The moment you step into these cam sites, you agree to interact with its business model. The placement of tip and pvt buttons, the colors and design of the site to make it easy for you to pay and see the models, that all comes from the business. It's all set up as a marketing strategy to make the sale happen, which is you tipping or paying for the model to do whatever it is you agreed to do with her.

Now, knowing that, this is the part where us guys tend to forget, what these girls give off, their emotions, their behavior in front of us like the friendliness, the teasing, the human interactions, showing part of themselves... that comes from them, not the business. They were friendly, or social, etc... BEFORE even coming to the site. And there can't be anything truer than that.

So how can one say that they're not genuine when they interact with you. Their emotions, who they are, their mannerisms had to have come from somewhere. And here they are sharing it with you! This is not like some product you can build overnight. Who they are and what they choose to share is a result of nature and nurture of their past. Just like you and me.

So to think that they have ill intent or not genuine all the time when they interact with you, no, I disagree that that's the case. Their friendliness or whatever part you get to enjoy comes from them and they had to have drawn that somewhere within themselves. The business model is actually the one parting you from your wallet. They did the recruiting, the marketing, all that stuff in exchange for you to see these girls. That part you can shake your fist or be angry at... but then again what were you thinking when you visited the site.

[grindradiox]

Just my 2 cents on this. Most of the cam girls are good people just trying to make their way in the world just like the rest of us. To think that they have malicious intent (trying to get in your wallet, teasing, leading you on, etc.) when they interact with you is kind of naive.

The moment you step into these cam sites, you agree to interact with its business model. The placement of tip and pvt buttons, the colors and design of the site to make it easy for you to pay and see the models, that all comes from the business. It's all set up as a marketing strategy to make the sale happen, which is you tipping or paying for the model to do whatever it is you agreed to do with her.

Now, knowing that, this is the part where us guys tend to forget, what these girls give off, their emotions, their behavior in front of us like the friendliness, the teasing, the human interactions, showing part of themselves... that comes from them, not the business. They were friendly, or social, etc... BEFORE even coming to the site. And there can't be anything truer than that.

So how can one say that they're not genuine when they interact with you. Their emotions, who they are, their mannerisms had to have come from somewhere. And here they are sharing it with you! This is not like some product you can build overnight. Who they are and what they choose to share is a result of nature and nurture of their past. Just like you and me.

So to think that they have ill intent or not genuine all the time when they interact with you, no, I disagree that that's the case. Their friendliness or whatever part you get to enjoy comes from them and they had to have drawn that somewhere within themselves. The business model is actually the one parting you from your wallet. They did the recruiting, the marketing, all that stuff in exchange for you to see these girls. That part you can shake your fist or be angry at... but then again what were you thinking when you visited the site.

All wrong you said, i got a lot of experience on being scammed by those perfect models you describe, real world experience on camsites is not the same as you saying, too much money laundering nowdays, models passing tokens to each other, there is a lot of tricks to make naive users to tip, i can share to you some if you want, lets say you are spending 2k tokens per day, studio can send some of this tokens or real money to a trusted "pimp" or another trusted person that is gonna promote that room just to make you jealous and tip more than 2k(lets say you know what is happening, this fake pimp guy buys fan club higher tier than you, spends big time on private and makes sure he is spending a bit more than you) suddenly you can do an experiment of just stopping dropping tokens on that room or just tipping a small amount(lets pretend its a small room not many users, and probably this model never allows you to spy those shows with the "fake pimp" but its open to spy on other camsites) after 1 week guy vanishes because studio is burning money with no profits(studios get desperate and model starts to go agressive mode and demands tips, usually they go back walking the line when you start tipping again but you gotta make their show very boring so they realize that you know that studio is manipulating and you not gonna tip for menu or other stuff if no big changes happen), there is a lot of other tricks those models do, you gotta be smart.

What you just said makes no sense and is a tin foil hat conspiracy with no evidence. How is any of that a scam? Do you even know what the definition of the word scam is? I could barely even read what you wrote because how bad your grammar is. You literally wrote an entire paragrah in one sentence filled with commas. lol.

Hypothetically, even what you are saying is true, (which is highly unlikely) that wouldn't be a scam. Any one who tips anything out of "jealousy" is a fool that is easily parted with his money. Hypothetically, a studio sending money to their own models to "make you jealous" wouldn't be a scam. A scam is when a model promises to do something for X amount of tokens and after you pay, she doesn't do what was promised. Stop blaming cam models for your own stupidity.

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alisha sometimes enables her lush in free chat. last night she was putting it in and moaning softly so at least she genuinely uses it unlike most lul

[Citycowboy88]

https://youtu.be/RNVLEv5k_Ms?si=tX55f_JiTd7fo1lR

[grindradiox]

I think EvaPirs might be quitting within the next few months. Her hours online have been down since July and it seems like she might only being seeing her regular customers by appointment now. She is almost never in free chat anymore. Just straight to pvt show as soon as she is online. And immediately offline when the pvt show is over.

I think all of the other remaning WS Soul Mate models will be leaving soon also. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the studio encouraging a lot of the models to move to Hot Flirt. It could be possible that the remaning Soul Mate category models are being paid less than the undercover Hot Flirt cateogory models. And those remaning Soul Mates refuse to switch over to Hot Flirt.

[grindradiox]

I think EvaPirs might be quitting within the next few months. Her hours online have been down since July and it seems like she might only being seeing her regular customers by appointment now. She is almost never in free chat anymore. Just straight to pvt show as soon as she is online. And immediately offline when the pvt show is over.

I think all of the other remaning WS Soul Mate models will be leaving soon also. I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the studio encouraging a lot of the models to move to Hot Flirt. It could be possible that the remaning Soul Mate category models are being paid less than the undercover Hot Flirt cateogory models. And those remaning Soul Mates refuse to switch over to Hot Flirt.

lucretia quit streaming and is looking at other stuff besides LJ.  eva's streaming channel is going very well.  elina is the only soulmate left with regular customers who still come watch her sit there so i don't see her leaving soon.

I don't know where you get the idea that Eva's channel is doing well. For the past 3 months, her time online and time in pvt is the lowest it's been for the entire year.

 

And I wasn't saying people don't want to go to pvt with her. I'm saying it's the other way around. It seems like she is getting tired of this kind of work or not happy with the studio any more. She has been getting more and more serious in free chat over the past few months. Now she is never in free chat and only goes pvts with her regulars by appointment.

You are probably right about Elina though. Her stats have remained about the same. I'm guessing her regulars mostly want conversational pvts with her because she is almost never in Exclusive pvt. Mainly open pvt shows.

But even if Elina is doing well. If Eva leaves, it won't be that proftable for the studio to only get the majority of it's income from one model. Even the new WS Hot Fllirts seems to be fading away also. With the exception of Alisha.

[grimm]

It's been slow times, especially since the start of summer. I think it's just them taking time off to enjoy vacations and stuff mostly. Some have side jobs and are busy with that. Some could be quitting soon yeah, it would be sad, but I wouldn't be that surprised. Eva started way back in December 2017! Almost 8 years is a long ass time to work as a cam model. Eva, if you read this, don't you dare quit!

Does anyone know why Amely quit?

[grindradiox]

It's been slow times, especially since the start of summer. I think it's just them taking time off to enjoy vacations and stuff mostly. Some have side jobs and are busy with that. Some could be quitting soon yeah, it would be sad, but I wouldn't be that surprised. Eva started way back in December 2017! Almost 8 years is a long ass time to work as a cam model. Eva, if you read this, don't you dare quit!

Does anyone know why Amely quit?

I personally want her to quit because it means there is some kind of chance that she might come back on a different account working for a new studio or completely independent on a different cam site.

It has nothing to do with vacation. Time off for summer vacation could have been a vailid excuse for June - August. But we are almost at the end of September now and she does the same exact thing. In fact she actually spent the least time in free chat this month than she has for entire cam career. She is only seeing her regulars by appointment now. Usually models that do this are near the end of their cam career and have other income streams, but they still don't mind a little extra money on the side.

I think another reason for her being online less, is she has been doing more Video Calls. I've been seeing her Video Call mode on longer for these past 3 months.

[crossedeyes]

traditionally this week is the return from summer break for widestream girls so be interesting to see who got a real job over the summer lul

elina/lucretia/eva will still be working for this dumb studio in years to come. they have nothing away from the place. they may flash the cash on youtube and $10k wins on fake slots every week but think if they were making this amount of money in real life would they still work on a sex cam site for a few hundred bucks?

[Zsjaer]

i saw Lucretia frequently and Goldy and Elina. jessicaRewan not ws but also has special members i saw her be in pvt for hours and hours

[grindradiox]

traditionally this week is the return from summer break for widestream girls so be interesting to see who got a real job over the summer lul

elina/lucretia/eva will still be working for this dumb studio in years to come. they have nothing away from the place. they may flash the cash on youtube and $10k wins on fake slots every week but think if they were making this amount of money in real life would they still work on a sex cam site for a few hundred bucks?

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Traditionally? I don't think the studio gives them a scheduled vaction time. Summer unofficially ends at the beginning of September for most people. I compared Eva and Lucretia's stats for previous summers and still their hours online and in pvt are the lowest it's ever been. Eva actually spent the most hours online one summer than she did out of her entire career, so nothing is the same every year.

The Youtube channels are probably not their only other income stream. They also do sports betting and other kinds of gambling. Not saying any of those jackpot videos were real, but those 10,000 wins are in GEL not USD. Some people act like they know everything that is going on in their lives, but really we only know about what they choose to make public online. They could have other income streams that we don't know about.

You say that they wouldn't be on cam sites if they were making good money. It seems like this is already starting to happen. If I had to guess, I believe the remamining models are diversifying their income streams now and LJ isn't the main priority any more. They are only after scheduled pvt shows with their regulars and go offline immediately after the pvt is over. Their time online will get less and less each month until we don't see them any more.

[crossedeyes]

julianaross is back and gets a 20000 gift rocketing her to 15th place in contest.

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well well... look what the cat dragged in

[Arold1234]

[grindradiox]

well well... look what the cat dragged in

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It seems like she's in the Hot Flirt category now, but I'm guessing she does the same exact thing like before. She has a 3 star rating with 8 votes. So it seems like the majority of people were not happy with her pvt show.

Based on her new photo and how that room looks, it seems like it's possible that she might be fully independent now. So hypothetically, some undressing could be possible if you play your cards right.

[Arold1234]

[intdev]

well well... look what the cat dragged in

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holy shit, she's getting to be a fatty and aging is not treating her well.

[Arold1234]

[grindradiox]

well well... look what the cat dragged in

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holy shit, she's getting to be a fatty and aging is not treating her well.

She was always chubby / borderline fat. For me, this level of fat is not a problem. lol. I thnk most of us would agree these are not the best looking models in the world. We are mainly interested because they are non nude.

[Arold1234]

[Arold1234]

[grindradiox]

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