[grindradiox]

sounds like there was a fight or disagreement of some kind. everyone knew the casino was a scam and they appear to be deleting all traces of it lul

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I wish i still talked with any of them enough to know what really happened

Maybe nothing actually happened. It's normal for cam models to quit. She isn't the first model from WS to quit. People are just creating conspiracies now that Eva finally decided to move on.

[bobbyboyar]

I wish i still talked with any of them enough to know what really happened

Maybe nothing actually happened. It's normal for cam models to quit. She isn't the first model from WS to quit. People are just creating conspiracies now that Eva finally decided to move on.

I had heard from one of the models that Eva streamed in Russian and was much more successful than Elina and Lucretia who did it in English.  I think she makes enough there now she doesnt need to deal with the idiots on jasmin anymore.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes at Eva's slot stream. But considering her Kick stream didn't work out and she only has 10 followers on Instagram, I would be a little suspicious of her "success" on Youtube. Also, I don't know whose money she's using, but whosever it is, she's losing it. Of course the house always wins.

[grindradiox]

Maybe nothing actually happened. It's normal for cam models to quit. She isn't the first model from WS to quit. People are just creating conspiracies now that Eva finally decided to move on.

I had heard from one of the models that Eva streamed in Russian and was much more successful than Elina and Lucretia who did it in English.  I think she makes enough there now she doesnt need to deal with the idiots on jasmin anymore.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes at Eva's slot stream. But considering her Kick stream didn't work out and she only has 10 followers on Instagram, I would be a little suspicious of her "success" on Youtube. Also, I don't know whose money she's using, but whosever it is, she's losing it. Of course the house always wins.

If I had to guess, she's not using real money to play these games when she's on camera. It's probably just a demo version of the actual game with fake funds loaded. All the wins are scripted.

She makes most of her money from advertising for the casino on Youtube. Not from gambling. That alone is two income streams. She's getting paid by the casino and also getting YouTube money. She probably wins some real games here and there with her real money sometimes off camera. They have also talked about sports betting on their YouTube channels, so that could be another possible income stream.

It's very unlilkely she's making a living income from playing slots. lol. Slots are a game of chance. Like playing lottery. Usually the people who can live off gambling do it with card games that involve skill and strategy. Like Poker and BlackJack. And Eva doesn't strike me as a skilled card player.

Her Kick stream probably failed probably because hardly anyone uses Kick. I didn't even know that was a streaming platform. Maybe she only has 10 followers on Insta because she hardly uses it. There are not a lot of photos on there.

[Tittygram]

Goldy in sexy thong 

[Maverick969]

Alisha is back. Now AlishaLovell.

Do you have any videos of photos of her please

[grindradiox]

Alisha is back. Now AlishaLovell.

Do you have any videos of photos of her please

She is doing full nude shows with dildo now for some people. I have her full nude show for trade or offer only.

[crossedeyes]

lucretia is back from a new apartment in Moscow using the old studio name, same can be said for elina in a new location.

alisha is easy to get topless but you have to do several privates to get the rest.

[grindradiox]

lucretia is back from a new apartment in Moscow using the old studio name, same can be said for elina in a new location.

alisha is easy to get topless but you have to do several privates to get the rest.

Things have changed with Alisha. I know people who have gotten her full nude on the first private show with cam to cam. Your mileage may vary.

Was Lucretia on a new account?

[crossedeyes]

widestreams trying their hardest to get all historic pictures and videos of evapirs removed from the internet

https://lumendatabase.org/notices/75177317

[grindradiox]

widestreams trying their hardest to get all historic pictures and videos of evapirs removed from the internet

https://lumendatabase.org/notices/75177317

they are trying to build her career as a casino streamer and want to pretend she never did this

This is nothing new. They were doing this also when she was working for the studio. I guess the only difference is now they are also trying to remove the non sexual photos of her that links her to working on LJ as a cam performer.

It's common for models and studios to do a massive DMCA take down when the model doesn't plan on doing cam work any more.

Independent models eventually lose their DMCA protection after a year or two. After this point, there is nothing they can do to remove their content from the internet. Studios can afford to pay for the DMCA protection a little bit longer even after the model retires. But at some point, even it takes years, Eva will lose DMCA protection.

For me it makes no difference. Any decent content of her that was on the internet, I already downloaded. And I still have my own pvt show recordings.

[YerbaMate]

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widestreams trying their hardest to get all historic pictures and videos of evapirs removed from the internet



For me it makes no difference. Any decent content of her that was on the internet, I already downloaded. And I still have my own pvt show recordings.

Is there any chance you could share some of that? I´m interested in anything really. There were some videos "EvaPirs panties" and "booty" and "twerking" for example, on TNAflix. If you don´t mind sharing the pvt recording would be great, but I understand totally if you don´t want to share those.

Please let me know if you have those TNAflix videos, (especially the panties one), and in general anything you can share. I would really appreciate it a lot man, I guess I just thought she would be around forever lol

[grindradiox]

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widestreams trying their hardest to get all historic pictures and videos of evapirs removed from the internet



For me it makes no difference. Any decent content of her that was on the internet, I already downloaded. And I still have my own pvt show recordings.

Is there any chance you could share some of that? I´m interested in anything really. There were some videos "EvaPirs panties" and "booty" and "twerking" for example, on TNAflix. If you don´t mind sharing the pvt recording would be great, but I understand totally if you don´t want to share those.

Please let me know if you have those TNAflix videos, (especially the panties one), and in general anything you can share. I would really appreciate it a lot man, I guess I just thought she would be around forever lol

I have the videos you are talking about. In fact I was the one who re uploaded them to Anon-V and it spread all over the internet. I don't "share" videos for nothing. I trade or accept offers. Yes the videos were already up on the internet, but I'm not going to spend time to upload them and share them here just out of kindness. If you have something to offer, you can PM me and I'll send what I have with her.

Also I would recommend that when you see videos of models that you like on the internet, download that video ASAP. Videos of models get removed all the time. Either because of DMCA take downs or because of the website trying to save storage. This isn't Youtube.

[YerbaMate]

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widestreams trying their hardest to get all historic pictures and videos of evapirs removed from the internet


I have the videos you are talking about. In fact I was the one who re uploaded them to Anon-V and it spread all over the internet. I don't "share" videos for nothing. I trade or accept offers. Yes the videos were already up on the internet, but I'm not going to spend time to upload them and share them here just out of kindness. If you have something to offer, you can PM me and I'll send what I have with her.

Also I would recommend that when you see videos of models that you like on the internet, download that video ASAP. Videos of models get removed all the time. Either because of DMCA take downs or because of the website trying to save storage. This isn't Youtube.

Yeah I get it, I will PM you.

[matt454CI]

guess who is coming back 

Spoiler: Img

What's her new name?

[grimm]

guess who is coming back 

Spoiler: Img

What's her new name?

She's not back anymore. As far as I know, she came back as JaneHollis in October, but after only two days online, her profile on Jasmin disappeared. Maybe someone else here knows more. Hope she comes back again.

[Fabreeze03]

Anyones with GoldyRivera/GoldyDance, DanaOlor/DaniellaMur or LizaClark/Myfitness?

[hotflirtLJLJ]

guess who is coming back 

Spoiler: Img

What's her new name?

She's not back anymore. As far as I know, she came back as JaneHollis in October, but after only two days online, her profile on Jasmin disappeared. Maybe someone else here knows more. Hope she comes back again.

I hope she comes back as nude model

[grimm]

Looks like LJ made some changes. I no longer see king of the room with tip amount while models are in private. It only shows when they are in free chat now. Also, it's possible to peek into Soul mate privates now. Not that it matters when all the girls use exclusive mode.
Also, when it shows text that the model is doing topless or spread pussy or whatever, that never seems to be correct. When I have peeked they just sit there in clothes. It's just so bad, I wonder what it is that triggers the topless status. What kind of dumb AI are they using?

[grindradiox]

Looks like LJ made some changes. I no longer see king of the room with tip amount while models are in private. It only shows when they are in free chat now. Also, it's possible to peek into Soul mate privates now. Not that it matters when all the girls use exclusive mode.
Also, when it shows text that the model is doing topless or spread pussy or whatever, that never seems to be correct. When I have peeked they just sit there in clothes. It's just so bad, I wonder what it is that triggers the topless status. What kind of dumb AI are they using?

For me the AI tags are mostly right when I peek. Sometimes if you peek and don't see what is in the tag, it coulld be that the model only did a quick flash. You have to refresh the page for the tags to update. The tags don't change unless you refresh the page.

What you mentioned about the King of the Room status not showing when the model is in pvt has been talked about in another thread. The change makes no sense because you can still see the tips the model received as soon as she comes back to free chat. Maybe they made the change to encourage people to not sit in rooms while the model is in Exclusive. If people can't track the tips when the model is in Exclusive pvt, they will most likely move on and look for a model that's in free chat.

[grimm]

Looks like LJ made some changes. I no longer see king of the room with tip amount while models are in private. It only shows when they are in free chat now. Also, it's possible to peek into Soul mate privates now. Not that it matters when all the girls use exclusive mode.
Also, when it shows text that the model is doing topless or spread pussy or whatever, that never seems to be correct. When I have peeked they just sit there in clothes. It's just so bad, I wonder what it is that triggers the topless status. What kind of dumb AI are they using?

For me the AI tags are mostly right when I peek. Sometimes if you peek and don't see what is in the tag, it coulld be that the model only did a quick flash. You have to refresh the page for the tags to update. The tags don't change unless you refresh the page.

What you mentioned about the King of the Room status not showing when the model is in pvt has been talked about in another thread. The change makes no sense because you can still see the tips the model received as soon as she comes back to free chat. Maybe they made the change to encourage people to not sit in rooms while the model is in Exclusive. If people can't track the tips when the model is in Exclusive pvt, they will most likely move on and look for a model that's in free chat.

Yeah it could be that they did it before I peeked. I even saw spread pussy tag on JaneM but she changed to exclusive and it went away. I doubt those are real, but I wonder what is triggering these tags. Another thing I have seen happen is when a clothed sitting model goes private, it will right away show a tag that usually goes away after a few seconds when they go into exclusive. That must be a bug, maybe a tag from her previous private show that somehow shows up when they start a new private.

[grindradiox]

Looks like LJ made some changes. I no longer see king of the room with tip amount while models are in private. It only shows when they are in free chat now. Also, it's possible to peek into Soul mate privates now. Not that it matters when all the girls use exclusive mode.
Also, when it shows text that the model is doing topless or spread pussy or whatever, that never seems to be correct. When I have peeked they just sit there in clothes. It's just so bad, I wonder what it is that triggers the topless status. What kind of dumb AI are they using?

For me the AI tags are mostly right when I peek. Sometimes if you peek and don't see what is in the tag, it coulld be that the model only did a quick flash. You have to refresh the page for the tags to update. The tags don't change unless you refresh the page.

What you mentioned about the King of the Room status not showing when the model is in pvt has been talked about in another thread. The change makes no sense because you can still see the tips the model received as soon as she comes back to free chat. Maybe they made the change to encourage people to not sit in rooms while the model is in Exclusive. If people can't track the tips when the model is in Exclusive pvt, they will most likely move on and look for a model that's in free chat.

Yeah it could be that they did it before I peeked. I even saw spread pussy tag on JaneM but she changed to exclusive and it went away. I doubt those are real, but I wonder what is triggering these tags. Another thing I have seen happen is when a clothed sitting model goes private, it will right away show a tag that usually goes away after a few seconds when they go into exclusive. That must be a bug, maybe a tag from her previous private show that somehow shows up when they start a new private.

The AI tags are only availble during open private shows. Not Exclusive shows. So that is why the tag would disappear immediately if a model switches to Exclusive. On the rare occaisons when the tags are incorrect, it's because the model could be in a position that looks similar to what the AI is supposed to tag.

For example, if a model is laying on the bed in underwear with legs open and there is a lot of skin showing in the crotch area or her underwear is slightly transparent, that could trigger the "spread pussy" tag. Also, that tag can be misleading to some people about what they consider "spread pussy." The "spread pussy" tag only tags when a model is naked with her legs spread open. It doesn't actually mean a spread open gaping pussy.

From my experience, I would say about 8 out of 10 times the AI tags are usually correct. What is more annoying is when model is actually naked and the AI doesn't tag anything. Sometimes I wait to see the "topless" or "spread pussy" AI tag before peeking and it never shows up. And when I peek to see what the model is doing, she was already naked the entire time. It makes me wonder if models have the option to disable the tags.

However, AI is something that is supposed to learn and improve through trial and error. So I think in time the tags will become almost 100% correct.

[grindradiox]

Yeah it could be that they did it before I peeked. I even saw spread pussy tag on JaneM but she changed to exclusive and it went away. I doubt those are real, but I wonder what is triggering these tags. Another thing I have seen happen is when a clothed sitting model goes private, it will right away show a tag that usually goes away after a few seconds when they go into exclusive. That must be a bug, maybe a tag from her previous private show that somehow shows up when they start a new private.

The AI tags are only availble during open private shows. Not Exclusive shows. So that is why the tag would disappear immediately if a model switches to Exclusive. On the rare occaisons when the tags are incorrect, it's because the model could be in a position that looks similar to what the AI is supposed to tag.

For example, if a model is laying on the bed in underwear with legs open and there is a lot of skin showing in the crotch area or her underwear is slightly transparent, that could trigger the "spread pussy" tag. Also, that tag can be misleading to some people about what they consider "spread pussy." The "spread pussy" tag only tags when a model is naked with her legs spread open. It doesn't actually mean a spread open gaping pussy.

From my experience, I would say about 8 out of 10 times the AI tags are usually correct. What is more annoying is when model is actually naked and the AI doesn't tag anything. Sometimes I wait to see the "topless" or "spread pussy" AI tag before peeking and it never shows up. And when I peek to see what the model is doing, she was already naked the entire time. It makes me wonder if models have the option to disable the tags.

However, AI is something that is supposed to learn and improve through trial and error. So I think in time the tags will become almost 100% correct.

Anyone who has been here long enough knows the limits of the girls we are talking about. And everyone talks quickly if a girl like alisha decides to go nude.  I have seen lucretia with a shirt without shoulder cover trigger the topless tag. But dont get your hopes up that is happening any time soon.

Or it could be possible that during the pvt show, Lucretia showed a good amount of cleavage close to cam and because her shirt didn't have shouler straps it gave the AI the iilusion of being topless.

Just because you peek and you don't see what the AI described, it doesn't mean that it didn't happen at some point during the show. Sometimes if a person leaves an Exclusive pvt show abrubtly, the pvt show switches back to either open pvt or Member chat and the AI will pick up the last position the model was in. The tags will sometimes remain there until the model gets back to free chat.

I don't expect the remaining Soul Mates in that studio to do anything differently, but Jane and Angelina are in a different category (and supposedly a different studio) now. I do think it's possible that they get down to underwear for some people. Jane already wears strapless corsets in free chat and has on fishnet pantyhose in her photos and promo video.

[crossedeyes]

A few moments ago. By the time I brought credits she went back exclusive. I doubt she was showing anything.

[RichT]

widestreams trying their hardest to get all historic pictures and videos of evapirs removed from the internet

https://lumendatabase.org/notices/75177317

they are trying to build her career as a casino streamer and want to pretend she never did this

This is nothing new. They were doing this also when she was working for the studio. I guess the only difference is now they are also trying to remove the non sexual photos of her that links her to working on LJ as a cam performer.

It's common for models and studios to do a massive DMCA take down when the model doesn't plan on doing cam work any more.

Independent models eventually lose their DMCA protection after a year or two. After this point, there is nothing they can do to remove their content from the internet. Studios can afford to pay for the DMCA protection a little bit longer even after the model retires. But at some point, even it takes years, Eva will lose DMCA protection.

For me it makes no difference. Any decent content of her that was on the internet, I already downloaded. And I still have my own pvt show recordings.

As far as web-camming is concerned, there is no such thing as losing "DMCA protection" and it is not something you have to pay for. DMCA is just a law that gives copyright owners rights. Some companies offer services where you pay them to identify theft and use the law on your behalf to demand stolen material be taken down, that is all. Sending a DMCA takedown request is extremely easy; the problem is that many sites do not comply, and DMCA is only legally enforceable within the USA, although other jurisdictions have similar laws. That said, many sites do comply with DMCA, even when they do not strictly need to.

There is some more information here and the WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) is also highly relevant.

[PeterFknPoole]

As far as web-camming is concerned, there is no such thing as losing "DMCA protection" and it is not something you have to pay for. DMCA is just a law that gives copyright owners rights. Some companies offer services where you pay them to identify theft and use the law on your behalf to demand stolen material be taken down, that is all. Sending a DMCA takedown request is extremely easy; the problem is that many sites do not comply, and DMCA is only legally enforceable within the USA, although other jurisdictions have similar laws. That said, many sites do comply with DMCA, even when they do not strictly need to.

There is some more information here and the WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) is also highly relevant.

It's rare but refreshing to see someone post accurate and impartial information like this.

[RichT]

As far as web-camming is concerned, there is no such thing as losing "DMCA protection" and it is not something you have to pay for. DMCA is just a law that gives copyright owners rights. Some companies offer services where you pay them to identify theft and use the law on your behalf to demand stolen material be taken down, that is all. Sending a DMCA takedown request is extremely easy; the problem is that many sites do not comply, and DMCA is only legally enforceable within the USA, although other jurisdictions have similar laws. That said, many sites do comply with DMCA, even when they do not strictly need to.

There is some more information here and the WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) is also highly relevant.

It's rare but refreshing to see someone post accurate and impartial information like this.

Thanks !

[grindradiox]

they are trying to build her career as a casino streamer and want to pretend she never did this

This is nothing new. They were doing this also when she was working for the studio. I guess the only difference is now they are also trying to remove the non sexual photos of her that links her to working on LJ as a cam performer.

It's common for models and studios to do a massive DMCA take down when the model doesn't plan on doing cam work any more.

Independent models eventually lose their DMCA protection after a year or two. After this point, there is nothing they can do to remove their content from the internet. Studios can afford to pay for the DMCA protection a little bit longer even after the model retires. But at some point, even it takes years, Eva will lose DMCA protection.

For me it makes no difference. Any decent content of her that was on the internet, I already downloaded. And I still have my own pvt show recordings.

As far as web-camming is concerned, there is no such thing as losing "DMCA protection" and it is not something you have to pay for. DMCA is just a law that gives copyright owners rights. Some companies offer services where you pay them to identify theft and use the law on your behalf to demand stolen material be taken down, that is all. Sending a DMCA takedown request is extremely easy; the problem is that many sites do not comply, and DMCA is only legally enforceable within the USA, although other jurisdictions have similar laws. That said, many sites do comply with DMCA, even when they do not strictly need to.

There is some more information here and the WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) is also highly relevant.

Getting the copyright and takedown protection is what has to be paid for. Not all models have copyright protection and this is something that has to be paid for. DMCA is a law that protects copyrighted content that has been paid for. So maybe I should have worded things differently.

The takedown protection is a service that automatically searches the web for any content and gives web hosts DMCA take down notices. This is requres a paid a subscription. And yes, copyrights can expire. It all depends on what the person paid for. Once a copyright expires, the work enters the public domain and can be used without permission or payment.

I was talking about DMCA takedown services like this:

https://dmcaspecialists.com/cam-model-protection

[grindradiox]

A few moments ago. By the time I brought credits she went back exclusive. I doubt she was showing anything.

Spoiler: Img

Like I was saying before, a strapless top and lots of cleavage close up can give the illusion of topless and trigger the AI tag.

Here is an example of what I'm talking about. HarleyQuense was like in free chat 2 months ago. Now just imagine the same thing with Lucretia's tits and her bringing it close to the cam to intentionally look like she is doing topless even though she isn't. It's a clever loophole.

[RichT]

This is nothing new. They were doing this also when she was working for the studio. I guess the only difference is now they are also trying to remove the non sexual photos of her that links her to working on LJ as a cam performer.

It's common for models and studios to do a massive DMCA take down when the model doesn't plan on doing cam work any more.

Independent models eventually lose their DMCA protection after a year or two. After this point, there is nothing they can do to remove their content from the internet. Studios can afford to pay for the DMCA protection a little bit longer even after the model retires. But at some point, even it takes years, Eva will lose DMCA protection.

For me it makes no difference. Any decent content of her that was on the internet, I already downloaded. And I still have my own pvt show recordings.

As far as web-camming is concerned, there is no such thing as losing "DMCA protection" and it is not something you have to pay for. DMCA is just a law that gives copyright owners rights. Some companies offer services where you pay them to identify theft and use the law on your behalf to demand stolen material be taken down, that is all. Sending a DMCA takedown request is extremely easy; the problem is that many sites do not comply, and DMCA is only legally enforceable within the USA, although other jurisdictions have similar laws. That said, many sites do comply with DMCA, even when they do not strictly need to.

There is some more information here and the WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) is also highly relevant.

Getting the copyright and takedown protection is what has to be paid for. Not all models have copyright protection and this is something that has to be paid for. DMCA is a law that protects copyrighted content that has been paid for. So maybe I should have worded things differently.

The takedown protection is a service that automatically searches the web for any content and gives web hosts DMCA take down notices. This is requres a paid a subscription. And yes, copyrights can expire. It all depends on what the person paid for. Once a copyright expires, the work enters the public domain and can be used without permission or payment.

I was talking about DMCA takedown services like this:

https://dmcaspecialists.com/cam-model-protection

I knew precisely what you meant. It is simply not true to simply state that "DMCA is a law that protects copyrighted content that has been paid for". The DMCA protection/takedown you refer to is an entirely optional service and no model needs to pay for it. The various applicable laws already provide copyright protection and all streamers (or whoever their have transferred their rights to) have it by default (although in some cases they also record themselves) - the point is nobody needs to pay for it. Furthermore, any streamer can issue their own "takedown" notice(s), also for free - I have issued hundreds (with success rates of 90+%) and never paid one cent. Of course these "DMCA Protection" companies do not tell you this - why would they?

As to copyright expiry, this varies with jurisdiction; but I believe that, in the USA, copyright for an individual expires only 70 years after the death of the copyright holder; so, 'expiry' is hardly a practical concern.

Also, the DMCA logos and notices have no legal value whatsoever. All they do is remind a viewer that the streamer is aware of their legal rights. To think these help in any other way is to suggest that wearing a "protected from crime" button/badge when walking down a dark street at night will somehow stop you from being mugged, or give you extra rights with the police if you are robbed.

[grindradiox]

As far as web-camming is concerned, there is no such thing as losing "DMCA protection" and it is not something you have to pay for. DMCA is just a law that gives copyright owners rights. Some companies offer services where you pay them to identify theft and use the law on your behalf to demand stolen material be taken down, that is all. Sending a DMCA takedown request is extremely easy; the problem is that many sites do not comply, and DMCA is only legally enforceable within the USA, although other jurisdictions have similar laws. That said, many sites do comply with DMCA, even when they do not strictly need to.

There is some more information here and the WIPO Copyright Treaty (WCT) is also highly relevant.

Getting the copyright and takedown protection is what has to be paid for. Not all models have copyright protection and this is something that has to be paid for. DMCA is a law that protects copyrighted content that has been paid for. So maybe I should have worded things differently.

The takedown protection is a service that automatically searches the web for any content and gives web hosts DMCA take down notices. This is requres a paid a subscription. And yes, copyrights can expire. It all depends on what the person paid for. Once a copyright expires, the work enters the public domain and can be used without permission or payment.

I was talking about DMCA takedown services like this:

https://dmcaspecialists.com/cam-model-protection

I knew precisely what you meant.  It is simply not true to simply state that "DMCA is a law that protects copyrighted content that has been paid for". The DMCA protection/takedown you refer to is an entirely optional service and no model needs to pay for it. The various applicable laws already provide copyright protection and all streamers (or whoever their have transferred their rights to) have it by default (although in some cases they also record themselves) - the point is nobody needs to pay for it. Furthermore, any streamer can issue their own "takedown" notice(s), also for free - I have issued hundreds (with success rates of 90+%) and never paid one cent. Of course these "DMCA Protection" companies do not tell you this - why would they? 

As to copyright expiry, this varies with jurisdiction; but I believe that, in the USA, copyright for an individual expires only 70 years after the death of the copyright holder; so, 'expiry' is hardly a practical concern.

Also, the DMCA logos and notices have no legal value whatsoever. All they do is remind a viewer that the streamer is aware of their legal rights. To think these help in any other way is to suggest that wearing a "protected from crime" button/badge when  walking down a dark street at night will somehow stop you from being mugged, or give you extra rights with the police if you are robbed.

You clearly didn't know what I meant. I'm fully aware that service I mentioned is optional. But most (or a lot of) models and studios with copyright protection use these services to make things easier. And yes these type of services have to be paid for. I wasn't talking about a model or studio doing the DMCA takedown themself.

I'm starting to think you are a disinformation shill who works for a studio or you just want to believe things work that way. A copyright isn't something a model gets automatically just by working a on a cam site.

Just because a video gets taken down and you didn't pay for a copyright, that doesn't neccesarily mean that model or studio had a copyright. It just mean you bluffed the website owner and he didn't want to take the chance of a lawsuit. A lot of models and studios with no protection pretend that they have a copyright and they actually don't. A lot of website owners are not going to ask for proof and don't want to deal with a potential lawsuit, so they just remove the video. This won't work on all websites.

It would be almost like you robbing a person with a realistic toy gun. And then claiming that toy guns are just as effective as real guns for robberies, and real guns are not necessary for robberies. lol.

Copyrights that last 70 years or more are very expensive. And I'm willing to bet that no studio or model has a copyright that lasts for this long. Another thing to mention, is that the production of porn is illegal in a lot of Eastern European countries. So hypothetically even if a model or studio in these countries had copyright protection, they would risk incriminating themself if they filed a lawsuit. Nice try with the disinformation. Try harder next time.